9 mm Makarov

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Áno je to ono. Zohnal som jednu krab. - 50ks. S tou zbraňou som voľakedy porážal prasa ( veom nemal by som ) a klasický ogivál sa zastavil na vnútornej strane lebky. Wolf išiel až na 20cm do krčnej chrbtice, pričom po celej jej dĺžke demoloval krčné stavce. Porážací účinok - neporovnateľný.
Pri streľbe na papier bolo počuť trošku väčšiu ranu, v terči taká istá diera, každý tretí výstrel zásek - zbarň CZ, ale to som už písal. V PM to vraj funguje na 100%.
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Naposledy upravil/-a robogti v 11 Feb 2012, 10:21, upravené celkom 1 krát.
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Mne to je jasne. Ale toto je debata makarov pm ... sekcia balistika je inde, ale budis ... Tak rozoberajme naboj 9mm makarov a nie kade, tade a porovnania s .22LR a podobne.

Ja si myslim, ze 9mm makarov je rovnako vykonny a stale dobry naboj, ako 9mm luger o com svedcia aj plechy na KEU v BA a priebojnost v porovnani 9x18 a 9x19, ktore skoncili rovnako. Samozrejme, ze vacsina z nas nebude strielat na plech, ale na osobu / tkanivo a cez to prejde aj .22LR a ked vieme KAM, tak postaci aj to, ale to som uz mimo temy :)
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Vyskúšal som :
maďarské makarovy- dvakrát mi uviazla strela v hlavni, podľa mňa nie sú dobré ani na papierový terč
považské strojárne- na strelnicu dobré, len väčší rozptyl, záleží podľa zbrane, popre zhadzujú dosť ťažko, proti živej sile myslím bohate stačia v zmysle vojdú ale už nemajú dosť energie aby vyšli von
wolf - iná prachová náplň, tvar strely vhodnejší na streľbu na živý terč, odovzdá viac energie
Niekde na nete som našiel ešte ďalších výrobcov, myslím že aj v Amerike, ktorí v tejto raži vyrábajú aj expanzívne strelivo.

Čo sa týka pištole PM, mal som v rukách jeden . Bol dosť nahrubo opracovaný, až som sa divil, že to vôbec dokáže strieľať bez zádržky, ale asi to má silnú pružinu a veľkú vôľu. Rozobraté som to nevidel, tak neviem, alebo bol taký len ten jeden kus?
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Ak sa mozem pridat do debaty,tak moj nazor na naboje byvalych Povazskych strojarni boli najsilnejsie.Mal som klasiky celoplaste.Stare vychodonemecke ako bolo pisane boli super len dymili ako perkusak,dalej Barnauly sa my zdali najpresnejsie,SB a ZVS-Holdibg Dubnica hrozne cajicky :roll: Kamarat mi dokonca prebijal Makarovi a aj tie slapali.Ozaj chlapi na zaver kde sa da teraz kupit Makarov za dobru cenu :wink: stary rusky :!: lebo to je masinka ku ktorej sa este vratim :wink:
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Mali ho donedavna v Deas Arms BA, ale kedy ho dostanu znova, tak to ti neviem povedat.
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Ten z deasu je u Xadera.Mali len jeden kus.Pytal som sa tam asi pred mesiacom.Ale myslim,ze to vedia objednat.
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Ked som bol u JK,v Grand Poweri p.Lihan mi vravel ze ich chceli objednat s Ciech ale ze ich nemali.Keby bola cena okolo 200eur,je to fajn.Ja som dal za neho pred rokom 9500sk.Len ja dusa vecne nespokojna som ho predal,teraz banujem.Nemam co nosit a nemam nic na lacne domace žuvkanie :roll:
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bum napísal:RadoK nevieš dat tu foto po uprave mieridiel ? trochu ma to zaujalo :wink:
bum: trochu neskoro reagujem ale dlho som nebol na fore, obrazok mieridiel Ti viem poslat ale tu ho neviem nejako vlozit, a nejake konto na nete kde by som mohol dat obrazky nemam. Posli email a tam Ti to poslem.
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Tiež som bol svojho času nadržaný na PM, ale kvôli strelivu som radšej zvolil CZ82, holt polygon hlaveň . Nemám to srdce ničiť drážky spekaným železom, a strelivo je dostupnejšie a lacnejšie ako klasické makarovy. Zároveň som to bral ako kompromis medzi cenou a zastavovacím účinkom
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toto bude poriadne dlhý príspevok, ale pre zberateľov, alebo pre niekoho, kto chce niečo fajnovešie sa možno zíde :
Abbreviations:

OAL: Overall length. Measured with digital calipers.
Avg: Average
ES: Extreme Spread (difference between minimum and maximum)
SD: Standard Deviation.
gr: Grains
fps: Feet per second
ins: Inches

American Eagle 95-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Federal Cartridge Co., Anoka, Mn
Headstamp: F C 9x18 MAKAROV
Cartridge Case: Brass, boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.5-gr (1 measured), fully-copper coated, concave base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.971 – 0.987
Avg: 0.974

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1004 – 1056
Avg: 1033
ES: 52
SD: 19 Fiocchi 95-gr FMJ (20 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Fiocchi Munizioni S.P.A., Lecco, Italy
Headstamp: G.F.L. 9 MAKAROV
Cartridge Case: Brass case, boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.5-gr (1 measured), copper (brass?)-coated, with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.970 – 0.975
Avg: 0.972

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 976 – 1077
Avg: 1040
ES: 101
SD: 27 RBCD 45-gr TFSP (Total Fragmenting Soft Point) (5 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: RBCD Performance Plus Ammunition, San Antonio, TX
Headstamp: *-* 9x18 MAK
Cartridge Case: Brass Case (Starline), boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 39.2-gr (1 measured), lead-filled or coated tip, convex (bulged) copper-coated base
Magnetic:No

OAL (ins) (5 rounds)
Range: 0.940 – 0.946
Avg: 0.943

Velocity: (fps)
Velocity (fps): 1671, 1661, 1032, 1558, 1640
Avg: (1512)

**Note: The round that shot 1032 fps did not have the energy to cycle the slide
Barnaul 94-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Barnaul Machine Tool Plant JSC, Barnaul, Russia
Headstamp: 9 mm MAK
Cartridge Case: Lacquer-coated steel, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.3-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated, concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.967 – 0.981
Avg: 0.976

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1038 – 1063
Avg: 1049
ES: 25
SD: 8 Hi-Shok 90-gr JHP (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Federal Cartridge Co., Anoka, Mn
Headstamp: F C 9x18 MAKAROV
Cartridge Case: Brass case, boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 89.4-gr (1 measured), copper-coated with concave copper base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.967 – 0.972
Avg: 0.969

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 986 - 1047
Avg: 1022
ES: 61
SD: 19 Reed’s 90-gr Gold-Dot (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Reed’s Ammunition & Research, Oklahoma City, OK
Headstamp: *-* 9x18 MAK
Cartridge Case: Brass (Starline), boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 88.9-gr (1 measured), copper-coated, concave copper base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.959 – 0.963

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 922 - 979
Avg: 957
ES: 57
SD: 19
Barnaul 95-gr HP (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Barnaul Machine Tool Plant JSC, Barnaul, Russia
Headstamp: 9 mm MAK
Cartridge Case: Lacquer-coated steel, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with concave copper-coated base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.935 – 0.941
Avg: 0.938

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1004 – 1028
Avg: 1020
ES: 24
SD: 9
Hornady 95-gr JHP (20 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Hornady Manufacturing Co., Grand Island, NE
Headstamp: HORNADY 9X18 MAKAROV
Cartridge Case: Brass case, boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.6-gr (1 measured), copper coated with flat copper base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.933 – 0.940
Avg: 0.939

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 908 - 956
Avg: 934
ES: 48
SD: 15 Sellier & Bellot 95-gr FMJ (24-round White Box) (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Sellier & Bellot JSC, Vlašim, Czechoslovakia
Headstamp: 9 mmM S & B
Cartridge Case: Steel case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 93.5-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.961 – 0.965
Avg: 0.963

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 898 - 934
Avg: 916
ES: 36
SD: 14
Brown Bear 92-gr JHP (20 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: LVE (Low Voltage Equipment Plant), Novosibirsk, Russia
Headstamp: LVE 02 9x18Mak
Cartridge Case: Bi-metal case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 93.2-gr (1 measured), Steel-cased copper-coated with exposed-lead concave base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.964 – 0.984
Avg: 0.977

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 966 – 1041
Avg: 1006
ES: 75
SD: 21 Jing An 95-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Exported by Jing-An Equipment IMP/EXP, China
Headstamp: 71 93
Cartridge Case: Steel case, berdan primed, non(?)-corrosive
Bullet: 94.5-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated bullet with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.970 – 0.975
Avg: 0.972

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 998 - 1095
Avg: 1037
ES: 97
SD: 29 Sellier & Bellot 95-gr FMJ (50-round green/red/white box) (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Sellier & Bellot JSC, Vlašim, Czechoslovakia
Headstamp: 9 mmM S & B
Cartridge Case: Brass case, boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 93.7-gr (1 measured), copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.977 – 0.979
Avg: 0.978

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 914 - 966
Avg: 940
ES: 52
SD: 16
Brown Bear 115-gr HP (20 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: LVE (Low Voltage Equipment Plant), Novosibirsk, Russia
Headstamp: LVE 01 9x18Mak
Cartridge Case: Bi-metal case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 116.8-gr (1 measured), steel-cased copper-coated bullet with flat copper-coated base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.951 – 0.969
Avg: 0.964

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 971 – 1023
Avg: 1001
ES: 52
SD: 15 LVE (Green Box) 95-gr FMJ (20 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: LVE (Low Voltage Equipment Plant), Novosibirsk, Russia
Headstamp: LVE 99 9x18Mak
Cartridge Case: Steel case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 92.2-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.971 – 0.979
Avg: 0.974

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 968 - 1029
Avg: 1008
ES: 20
SD: 61 Silver Bear 120-gr JHP (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: LVE (Low Voltage Equipment Plant), Novosibirsk, Russia
Headstamp: LVE 01 9X18MAK
Cartridge Case: Nickel-plated steel, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 116.8-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with flat copper base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.961 – 0.974
Avg: 0.968

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 945 – 983
Avg: 960
ES: 38
SD: 12
B-West 100-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: TCW (Tula Cartridge Works) Tula, Russia
Headstamp: B West 9x18
Cartridge Case: Bi-metal, berdan primed, corrosive
Bullet: 105.2-gr (1 measured), steel-cased copper-coated bullet with flat exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.972 – 0.978
Avg: 0.976

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 912 – 943
Avg: 930
ES: 31
SD: 10 Mesko 93-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Mesko - Skarzysko-Kamienna, Poland
Headstamp: Mesko 9x18 Mak
Cartridge Case: Brass case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 92.9-gr (1 measured), copper-coated bullet with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.970 – 0.980
Avg: 0.974

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 934 - 1026
Avg: 975
ES: 92
SD: 31 Silver Bear 115-gr FMJ (20 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: LVE (Low Voltage Equipment Plant), Novosibirsk, Russia
Headstamp: LVE 01 9X18MAK
Cartridge Case: Nickel-plated steel, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 116.5-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with flat copper base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.960 – 0.972
Avg: 0.966

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 992 – 1037
Avg: 1011
ES: 45
SD: 12
CCI 90-gr GDHP (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Blount (CCI), Lewiston, Idaho
Headstamp: CCI R Makarov 9x18 N
Construction: Aluminum case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.959 – 0.963
Avg: 0.961

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1024 - 1074
Avg: 1051
ES: 50
SD: 15 MFS 93-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: MFS: Hungarian Ammunition Manufacturing, Inc., Sirok, Hungary
Headstamp: MFS 9x18 Mak
Cartridge Case: Brass case, boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 93.4 (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case – no; bullet yes

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.973 – 0.979
Avg: 0.976

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 986 - 1024
Avg: 1002
ES: 38
SD: 11 Silver Bear 92-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: LVE (Low Voltage Equipment Plant), Novosibirsk, Russia
Headstamp: LVE 01 9x18MAK
Cartridge Case: Nickel-plated steel, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 92.9-gr (1 measured), steel-cased copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.971 – 0.983
Avg: 0.975

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 885 – 1057
Avg: 1033
ES: 172
SD: 52
CCI Blazer 95-gr TMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: CCI, Lewiston, Idaho
Headstamp: CCI R Makarov 9x18 N
Cartridge Case: Aluminum case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.6-gr (1 measured) fully copper-coated with concave base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.971 – 0.976
Avg: 0.973

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 946 - 982
Avg: 969
ES: 36
SD: 14 (SK) Nimrod 93-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Mesko - Skarzysko-Kamienna, Poland
Headstamp: S K N 9x18 Mak
Cartridge Case: Brass case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 92.2-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case – no; bullet yes

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.973 – 0.978
Avg: 0.975

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 886 - 1000
Avg: 954
ES: 114
SD: 36 TCW 109-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Tula Cartridge Works, Tula, Russia
Headstamp: TCW 9mm Makarov
Cartridge Case: Steel case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 2 measured: 108.2-gr; 109.8-gr; copper-coated bullet, flat exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case is magnetic; bullet is not

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.972 – 0.980
Avg: 0.975

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 978 – 1037
Avg: 1013
ES: 59
SD: 17
CCI Centerfire 95-gr TMJ (20 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: CCI, Lewiston, Idaho
Headstamp: CCI R Makarov 9x18 N
Cartridge Case: Aluminum case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.5-gr (1 measured) fully copper-coated with concave base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.969 – 0.977
Avg: 0.972

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 903 - 946
Avg: 928
ES: 43
SD: 10 Norinco 93-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: China North Industries Corp., China
Headstamp: 71 93
Cartridge Case: Steel case, berdan primed, non-corrosive(?)
Bullet: 94.5-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.971 – 0.978
Avg: 0.975

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 950 - 1063
Avg: 1014
ES: 113
SD: 36 Tiger 95-gr JHP (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Barnaul Machine Tool Plant JSC, Barnaul, Russia
Headstamp: 9mm Mak (W/ Trademark)
Cartridge Case: Zinc plated steel, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.3-gr (1 measured), steel-cased copper-coated with concave copper-coated base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.935 – 0.941
Avg: 0.937

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1040 – 1070
Avg: 1053
ES: 30
SD: 9
Cor-Bon 95-gr JHP (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: CorBon/Glaser, Sturgis, South Dakota
Headstamp: *-* 9x18 MAK
Cartridge Case: Brass case (Starline), boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.9-gr (1 measured) copper-coated with flat copper-coated base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.946 – 0.950
Avg: 0.948

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1123 - 1153
Avg: 1135
ES: 30
SD: 9 PS Grand 95-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: PS Grand a.s., Bytca, Slovakia
Headstamp: PS 9mm M
Cartridge Case: Brass case, boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 94.6-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case – no; bullet jacket is magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.967 – 0.974
Avg: 0.970

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1041 - 1093
Avg: 1070
ES: 52
SD: 17 Winchester 95-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Sellier & Bellot JSC, Vlašim, Czechoslovakia
Headstamp: WIN 9x18 Mak
Cartridge Case: Brass case, boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 93.8-gr (1 measured), copper-coated bullet, concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: No

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.977 – 0.977 (!!)
Avg: 0.977

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 904 - 966
Avg: 928
ES: 45
SD: 13
East German 95-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: East Germany
Headstamp: 78 04
Cartridge Case: Steel case, berdan primed, corrosive
Bullet: 92.5-gr (1 measured) steel-jacketed copper-coated bullet with flat exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.974 – 0.979
Avg: 0.977

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1002 - 1056
Avg: 1033
ES: 54
SD: 17 RAM 95-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Barnaul Machine Tool Plant JSC, Barnaul, Russia
Headstamp: 9mm Mak (with a trademark)
Cartridge Case: Zinc-plated steel case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 93.7-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated with concave exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.969 – 0.977
Avg: 0.973

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1043 - 1086
Avg: 1063
ES: 43
SD: 17 WOLF 100-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Tula Cartridge Works, Tula, Russia
Headstamp: 9mm Makarov WOLF
Cartridge Case: Steel case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 101.2-gr (1 measured), copper-coated with flat exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case is magnetic; bullet is not

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.969 – 0.979
Avg: 0.974

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 908 – 987
Avg: 951
ES: 79
SD: 22

Extreme Shock 85-gr PDR (3 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Mullins Ammunition Co., Clintwood, VA
Headstamp: *-* 9x18 MAK
Cartridge Case: Brass Case (Starline), boxer primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 84.2-gr (1 measured), “Tungsten-Nytrilium” (plastic tip), flat copper-coated base
Magnetic:No

OAL (ins) (5 rounds)
Range: 0.981 – 0.984
Avg: 0.983

Velocity: (fps)
1060, 1045, 1048 (avg = 1051)

** Note: One round separated during handling
Editors Note: Mullins Ammunition was made aware of the problems that occurred during testing, and has since changed the crimping method used to prevent this from happening. RAM 95-gr HP (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Barnaul Machine Tool Plant JSC, Barnaul, Russia
Headstamp: 9mm Mak (with a trademark)
Cartridge Case: Zinc-plated steel case, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 93.8-gr (1 measured), steel-jacketed copper-coated bullet
Magnetic: Cartridge case and bullet jacket are magnetic

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.934 – 0.944
Avg: 0.939

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 1039 - 1083
Avg: 1069
ES: 44
SD: 16 WOLF 109-gr FMJ (10 rounds tested)

Manufacturer: Tula Cartridge Works, Tula, Russia
Headstamp: 9mm Makarov WOLF
Construction: Steel case, steel-cased copper-coated bullet, berdan primed, non-corrosive
Bullet: 107.4-gr (1 measured), copper-coated with flat exposed-lead base
Magnetic: Cartridge case is magnetic; bullet is not

OAL (ins)
Range: 0.969 – 0.977
Avg: 0.972

Velocity: (fps)
Range: 950 – 992
Avg: 973
ES: 42
SD: 14
triton
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Ahojte, všetci,

vidím, že o strelive 9 mm Makarov sa tu nepísalo už 9 rokov. :D

Ja som si však minulého roku obstaral ruskú PM a mám z nej radosť. Zistil som ale aj to, že strelivo je drahšie a nie tak ľahko dostupné. Chcel by som si zaobstarať väčšie množstvo munície (do 500 ks). Jediný zdroj, čo však mám, sú štandardné obchody, kde je cena okolo 0,32 EUR za kus.

Robia sa nejaké spoločné veľké nákupy? Alebo viete poradiť, kde by sa to dalo nakúpiť z vojenských veľkoskladov, kde by to mohlo byť lacnejšie?

Ďakujem pekne
knot
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Ahoj, pre 9x18 mas na vyber prebijat alebo sledovat inzeraty.
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